What traditional healers say about eco children. Eco children without a soul

INTRODUCTION FROM TEA

If we take it globally, from the point of view of the ethical attitude to Life - why did it originate, if they were not going to give the possibility of manifestation and further development? The law of Awareness of the Creator's Responsibility works here. If this law is ignored, the result will always be death, waste of energy for nothing, disappointment and other consequences.

In people, disgust for condoms is higher than for pieces of aborted meat and pains of a woman, both physical and mental.

The soul can begin to enter the embryo from the period when the circulatory system develops - a small heart and blood vessels. This is approximately 2.5 months of intrauterine development. The soul of my son entered for the first time precisely at this time. Before that, there was no one. :) There may be later dates, it depends on the experience and plans of the soul itself.

Therefore, early abortions are considered safer both for the souls and for the bodies of failed mothers.

And later dates ... Here is a quote from one story: “One of my acquaintances once told the story of her appearance on Earth. The first attempt was interrupted by an abortion on later dates, the second attempt at the same parents was successful after 2 years. As they say, a stubborn soul. Well, then, when memories come or are induced (about the experienced experience of the soul), the person goes into a dressing from resentment and disappointment, in general - schizophrenia.

But we must not forget that even if the soul has not yet technically entered the fetus, and she had clear plans to do so, she will, together with her parents, empathize with all the ups and downs of the decision to have an abortion. Although, again, the degree of involvement depends on the nature of the soul, its properties and vibrational plan.

Everyone knows about the consequences for the woman's body. I respect myself and my spaces, including body space. Therefore, in youth were birth control pills, and then I decided to stop bullying myself and switched to condoms. There were no abortions. Having a baby was a conscious decision.

EXTRACTS FROM THE CONVERSATION

TATYANA: The number of children is written in the contract for incarnation, but with personal initiative and other points, these terms of the contract can already be rewritten in the process of incarnation?

Ashtar (through Hope): Of course, in the process of incarnation you can rewrite not only the number of children, but also any other events in your life. This is ideal, for this you need to learn to clear your brain of any illusions, like the one that “everything is predetermined”, that there are fundamental moments that move you in a certain vector, etc.

TEA: Yes. Agree completely.

TATYANA: Is there such a principle that a parent always has a more spiritual child than himself? I suspect that if this is the case, then there are still a lot of exceptions. :)

ASHTAR (through Nadezhda): No, there is no such principle, everything depends solely on the upbringing of parents. At the same time, they do not have to be high or low spiritual, the question is rather in some of the basic points that they lay in the development of the child. Most often, parents are not chosen according to the degree of spirituality, although this plays a certain role in the choice of parents.

TEA: Yes, there may be different options. The main role is played by the scenario plan of “fate”.

TATYANA: What happens during IVF ( in vitro fertilization)? Can it be predetermined? What effect does this way of conceiving a child have on the soul itself?

Ashtar (via Hope): I don't know what happens with IVF. I know that this method of conception does not have any effect on the soul itself. And that such a method can be provided in advance, as one of the options (scenario).

TEA: I would rather agree, but in theory, there is no experience.

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TATYANA: What happens with surrogate motherhood? Do not all codes and matrices mix there? Whose energies will the body, the personality consist of?

Ashtar (via Hope): In surrogacy, codes and matrices get mixed up. The body and personality will consist of the energy of all persons involved in surrogate motherhood. Whose energies will be involved to a greater and lesser extent depends on specific individuals, for everyone individually, depends on the (strength) energies.

TEA: Definitely!

TATYANA: Why does this particular soul need it? After all, the soul chooses specific parents, in this case, “there” is everyone aware that the child will be transferred? Surely the mixing of all these energies will carry a very strong psychological burden on such a child. Is that generally humane towards him?

TEA: Very well-posed questions. I will say right away that no one THERE really cares about this. They see everything there from a completely different perspective than we do here, sitting on Earth. I think you can guess which version is more true. :) This is one of the basic reasons - the lack of analysis and the desire to delve into the nuances of lower densities in general, which is why there are so many “imperfections” here.

TATYANA: Only now I really truly realized (felt) that indeed the situation is always better seen from the inside. It's like in the same example about the plant. If the boss only sits in the office, and at least sometimes does not look into the shops, then he will never be able to understand the needs of the workers. After all, it is not in vain that there is always more sense from workers who have reached the “top” from the “bottom”. Hence the conclusion - since there was an opportunity to somehow “shove” you, TEA, into the body :), then it’s also possible for our local “tops” to do this, so they would go down and see everything with their own eyes. Although, I understand that most likely there are a lot of nuances here and they simply cannot withstand these densities.

TEA: They're just scared of these densities. Would you like to live in the basement, and even with the probability of non-return due to the loss of integrity (division into aspects)? My "friends from above" look at me like I'm crazy. They often ask cautiously like this - well, how is it in 3D, how can you stand it? I laugh, nothing, I say, it’s normal, you can live, come visit, I’ll cover it, if anything. :) And they have thoughts - well, yes, these "messengers from beyond" do what they want, well, well, let's see how this next instance (in my person) ends up with its experiments.

TATYANA: I heard that those souls are born as twins, which for many incarnations have not been able to try on and pass their lessons, and thus a way was found for their closest rapprochement. Do you have any information about this?

Ashtar (through Hope): If only the souls themselves have expressed a desire to undergo such an experience, then this can be done. But this is not a rule, but the choice of specific souls. In fact, it happens in different ways, millions different options.

TATYANA: I don’t understand why there are millions of different options and exactly twins - there must be some kind of goal for this?

TEA: Millions of non-twin variants meant to work out close relationships. You then Siamese twins ask, there is no place closer. I think that the topic here is not necessarily related to working off. Really a lot of options. Twins, or the same clones, for example, are a kind of prototype of the collective consciousness, when one feels the other as himself. Such a single team. Technically. But the fate of the twins can be from merger to complete rejection.

TATYANA: What are “the same clones, for example”? What are we talking about?

TEA: Yes, about common clones. So far, only animals have been cloned on Earth. And in other races they have already proven that they are now looking for fresh genetic material throughout the universe, they are not able to restore their own, they have finished playing ...

TATYANA: If a person develops intensively during his life, connects more and more with his soul, can a soul come to him (in the form of a child), of a higher level, so to speak, than it was planned before the incarnation?

Ashtar (through Hope): If you really want it to be like this... You can ask. This is more related to the issue of changing the contract. You can agree on everything, you need to be able to correctly build requests, accept and understand all the responsibility, which is very big. Because in this way you change the matrix codes of many people, not only your own, this requires awareness and time.

TEA: A very precise answer.

TATYANA: No, I don't want to. It just seems to me that parents with a 3D consciousness, ruined bodies and personalities, well, purely physically, I can’t accept the soul “more high level”, even if it was written in the contract. Well, I don’t know, I can describe it with a banal example, an ordinary yard cat, having the first connection, and the same yard cat cannot give birth to a thoroughbred kitten ... Well, somehow it turned out, again, from communicating with people, parents with more -less awake souls, like children, are more often born more conscious or something. Although, I immediately remember your words, TEA, about your mother, that she looks more like a phantom ....

TEA: Do you know where the problem is in your reasoning? You become attached to the body, the parameters of physics. But the soul of the child does not give birth to the body of the parents. They give birth to just another body, a physical vessel for the soul. Therefore, it does not matter here what the level of consciousness of the parents is in principle. This factor is important only at the time of the “education” of the child, while he is suggestible and dependent. Now you understand why my requirement for parents in their selection was non-interference in my inner world? Therefore, the example with a cat is an example with physical parameters - a breed. He doesn't fit here. You know that mutts are often much smarter and more resilient than purebreds. The beauty and fluffiness of the skin in matters of spiritual progress do not matter. :) Of course, the vibrational closeness of the child and parents makes life easier for everyone. But the local "Strategists" seem to have very different plans for this planet.

TATYANA: In my understanding, indeed, there has always been some kind of connection between physics. It seems to me that the soul cannot but exert absolutely no influence on the body. After all, they say that the eyes are the mirror of the soul. Among the babies that are being born now, there are a huge number of those that you want to look at and admire, and their eyes - there is so much depth, wisdom and love!

TEA: The soul influences the body, just as the body influences the soul, but already in the process of their life together. And we spoke in the context of the arrival of the soul to developed parents. These are different moments.

TATYANA: Then I don't understand why people involved in self-development are constantly trying to raise the vibrations of their body? They make it easier to eat, give up alcohol and cigarettes, do yoga, etc., etc.

TEA: And what is incomprehensible? The body in a healthy state does not interfere with life, on the contrary. But in a sick body there will be no time for spirituality. Although there is a fashion here at first to bring oneself almost to the grave, and then in a stubborn struggle to get back out, calling it spiritual work. From my position, spirituality is to understand in advance where it is easy to fall and not bring yourself to such a degree of exhaustion. Some distinction. :)

TATYANA: How can a high-vibration soul communicate with a low-vibration body in general? Let’s say, when fewer souls were born earlier, those who are now called “new”, the old bodies may have been suitable for them, but for new souls and with bodies they did something there, I read somewhere that they seemed to be doing research and found that they have activated more strands of DNA.

I don’t know, well, I have my own feeling that my body, for example, has some differences from the majority. Well, here is the same example with food - all my childhood I was simply force-fed, while there was more than enough energy, and now I see that more and more mothers are looking for advice on what to do - the child refuses complementary foods ... or maybe this child is already set up for prano-eating? Some sores there, I didn’t have like all children, but always with some kind of tricks, so the doctors often just stood at a dead end, only guessing, or maybe this way, or maybe that way. Well, thank God I didn't get sick that often. :) Well, I don’t know, in general, in my body there has always been some kind of lightness, weightlessness, it seems like not everyone was so mobile. :))

In general, I have some kind of strong feeling that, well, there can’t be a complete mismatch at all - physics in one direction, and the soul in another.

If the soul plans to be effective here (although, of course, one can be effective in different ways), it needs the most clean, healthy body so that the personality does not run wild, so that the soul can break through and be heard. Therefore, I simply cannot understand why a high-vibration soul needs a body that is too low-vibration to lie on the couch? Or walked around the taverns? :)

TEA: So it's not the body itself that walks around the taverns, it doesn't know what it is. And generic programs transmitted through genetics make the soul in the body experience all the negative habits. These are the new "plugs" that were basic at the time of birth. Plus those accumulated over a lifetime, plus those that the soul has collected and carries with it from incarnation to incarnation. Karma, so to speak. :)

TATYANA: And so the question is - why should a developed soul choose a family with such programs?

TEA: The soul is forced to choose from the assortment of proposals that are now in the conditions of the Earth. And how people live, we ourselves know everything. In addition, for a soul, especially a developed one, to raise the quality of the energy of the birth into which it enters is also a kind of personal task and practice of “taking heights”, when the spiritual fructifies the material and raises it vibrationally. In general, the games are local. :)

TATYANA: All these questions arise because of an attempt to somehow systematize everything more or less. It’s hard for me to understand when there are no rules of the game at all, and everything can always be whatever you like. I agree, for some it may be so, but not for everyone here. Obviously there are some principles, gradations - otherwise it would not be a mess, but in general something utterly unimaginable would happen.

TEA: Actually, that's what's going on - out of the blue. That is why everything you are trying to understand now is why here (on Earth) there are no rules by which your native world lives?

TATYANA: Can a woman's desire to abort a pregnancy also be pre-planned ... for the passage of lessons again (wherever you look, we have only lessons here, producing only another pain). With what difficulty did I squeeze this question out of myself ...

ASHTAR (through Hope): According to the old programs, maybe. I really hope that these programs will change soon.

TEA: I'm joining!

TATYANA: If a woman cannot get pregnant naturally in this life. Here real example: The woman had the opportunity to look at her past lives and find moments where she had abortions. She says: “Yes, it was. But I calmed down. It's not like I did it." I ask: "And who?" Yes, the personality is different, but it consists of the energies of our own soul. Wouldn’t it be more correct to say: “Yes, I did it, I realized my mistakes, I don’t want to do it anymore and I won’t, and in this life I’m already ready to help the soul to incarnate?”

ASHTAR (through Hope): Yes, it would be logical to say so, as you say. Not just to say, but to work this moment on energy levels. This already applies to the work of new and old programs. If she realized that she could throw off the burden of the past, taking responsibility for it, passing it through her heart, then ask to work and give these energies, in return to receive clean ones and take responsibility, dress them in real positive work in this world for his good, then things could have turned out differently for her. But it works for those who are really aware. And she refuses her experience, does not accept it, therefore, she works in old programs, where they teach not by thought, but by deed.

TEA: Yes, it is awareness and active involvement in one's own destiny that people lack. I see the reason for the lack of soul energies in life, its weak functioning. I will not catch up with a wave of negativity, but a natural question arises - where did the energy go? :)))

TATYANA: Is this the reason for everyone or for her specifically? It's just that if everyone has it, then why do all those who give birth have so many soul energies involved?

TEA: Soul energies are severely blocked in almost the entire population. They just take everyone on their “chip”. This lady, or rather both her soul and personality, respectively, has the theme of abortion-children, others have relationships in hundreds of variations, others have money (wealth), fourths have health, fifths have unfulfilled ambitions (power), and sixths have everything together at the same time and alternately.

TATYANA: Do you mean that all the energy goes into these experiences or aspirations?

TEA: Exactly!

TATYANA: Are contracts written for each incarnation separately? Or for all incarnations at once, or for some cycle of incarnations with a common task?

TEA: It's like a tree. For each incarnation separately. But this particular contract becomes a clause of a more general contract. Perhaps there are more variations, I can’t say for everyone yet, we are studying this topic along the way.

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Today, the IVF method has ceased to be something fantastic and has gone beyond the walls of scientific laboratories into everyday life. In vitro fertilization fulfills the dream of many couples who were doomed to a fruitless marriage a couple of decades ago.

The IVF method, if we consider it without details, includes only 4 stages:

1. Stimulation of multiovulation (for the maturation of several follicles in the current cycle).

2. Puncture of follicles.

3. Fertilization of eggs and cultivation of embryos.

4. Embryo transfer.

14 days after the embryo transfer, an hCG test is performed to understand if pregnancy has occurred.

After the embryo transfer, the doctor issues recommendations - both on drug support, and on lifestyle and behavior. Recommendations are the most general character, for example: "limit your sex life, physical exercise but do something to distract you from waiting for the pregnancy test result.”

Of course, when preparing for the IVF protocol, doctors focus directly on the procedures up to point 4 inclusive. Women in preparation for IVF are most often worried about hormone therapy(“I suddenly get fat?”), for physical pain and, in fact, for the result - whether it will work or not.

I will tell you about my experience, it is possible that my story will change someone's view of the procedure and help them prepare better.

My experience is 4 IVF attempts (one of them is cryotransfer, that is, the transfer of previously frozen embryos) within one year.

Until a certain moment, I thought that IVF would never touch me - it is something from another reality, like flying into space. Circumstances turned out differently and in vitro fertilization became my only way to become a mother. own child. The option of having a foster child always exists, but I was not ready for it then, nor now.

Stimulation of multiovulation is a very simple step. Just give injections every day at a certain time and periodically go for monitoring. For the weight of this hormonal stimulation had no effect. The follicle puncture scared me only the first time, but this is also a fairly simple procedure from the patient's point of view. Follow all the recommendations of the doctors and everything will go smoothly. It is carried out under general anesthesia, I personally recovered quickly, no consequences, no pain - I slept under anesthesia, lay down, got up and went about my business.

Stage 3 - fertilization and cultivation - occurs without the participation of the patient, the doctor with some periodicity simply notifies about the progress of this stage by phone - how many eggs have been fertilized, how many and what quality the embryos have turned out.

Embryo transfer takes only a few minutes and is no more unpleasant than a routine gynecological examination. After the transfer, it is recommended to lie down for about half an hour and then you can go home, do your usual things, following the recommendations.

In my opinion, the most difficult stage is not voiced by doctors, the fifth is the expectation of the result. What to do 14 days before pregnancy test? Those women who are forced to resort to the IVF method, as a rule, have already gone through all 7 circles of hell on the way to motherhood and are counting on a positive result. However, no one can guarantee the result here! The success of the procedure depends on too many factors, neither doctors nor patients can foresee and know everything! And in the absence of pregnancy after IVF, doctors can only assume what exactly went wrong, but not know for sure.

I recommend preparing psychologically for the 14 days between embryo transfer and hCG test to be your personal hell. It is impossible to be 100% distracted from thinking about what is happening inside you. Even the most microscopic thought about it grows to catastrophic proportions. I am not a suspicious person at all, I stand firmly on the ground, a realist, I know how to manage emotions due to professional deformation, my strength is logic and composure.

However, in the first protocol, waiting for the results knocked me down, I just went crazy! I was worried every second - what if I got up too abruptly? What if I ate something wrong? Suddenly my negative thoughts will affect? I dreamed bad dream, suddenly because of this it will not work? God, I sneezed, what should I do, they could fly out of me! Plus, the protocol was unsuccessful, that is, pregnancy did not occur. Despite my motto: “Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst,” I was not ready for such a trip. Physically, I didn’t suffer at all, but mentally ... I was ready to go out the window ...

Over the next 3 days, which I spent in tears, cigarettes (and I have not smoked for over 10 years!) And coffee, I lost 10 kilograms. Fortunately, my loved ones and my husband have provided strong support. My husband and I made a long-term plan for further treatment. Planning, step by step actions and the indispensable discussion of them with the spouse helps a lot. Thus, you say out loud that life did not stop there and the future is in your hands! After the protocol, the body needs rest to recover.

I went on vacation, new impressions and a change of scenery helped me a lot to recover mentally. Your IVF budget should include a recovery item, such as through a vacation. The main thing is to switch your head!

I approached the next protocol with a more sober head and was not particularly tuned in to a positive result. Of course, it was impossible not to think at all about the outcome of the protocol during the fifth stage, but, thanks to the fact that my husband completely devoted these crazy 14 days to organizing our leisure time, everything went much calmer.

In the third protocol, I finally understood the reason for our failures. Before that, I thought a lot, because there are a lot of factors, and both the quality of the embryos and the ability to female body take in a "foreign element". The third, cryoprotocol, also did not bring us the long-awaited news of pregnancy. Logically, in the standard protocols, the woman's body is subjected to very cruel tests beforehand, and one can consider the option that for some reason it rejects embryos. In the cryoprotocol, embryos are implanted into my completely healthy and rested body.

And they simply do not survive and my body has absolutely nothing to do with it. Exceptional embryo quality. Logical thinking helped me turn off my emotions this time and prepare for the next protocol. Logically, we “driven” into the fourth protocol with preliminary preparation and elaboration of my theory. Since, after all, my worldview is based on logic, I was afraid of only one thing - that my conclusions would turn out to be erroneous. In that case, I just didn't know what to do next.

After all, I could spend my whole life on futile attempts! Is this life? I gave myself the installation - in case of failure, try a couple more times in order to make sure of the futility, and then leave all attempts and learn to live without thoughts of procreation. With one eye I even read some articles and interviews on the subject of a forced barren life. Physiologically speaking, our fourth protocol should have been a failure. Just before the transfer, something went wrong with the previous patient in the operating room, I saw the condition of my doctor. Although she tried her best to hold on, it was clear that the situation they had was far from standard and the doctor was nervous.

After the transfer, I was driving home and almost got into an accident, the fright was strong. Then 14 days of waiting, I worked like a damn, not thinking about the result at all. But it turned out that logic won and we saw the coveted two stripes. By the way, I was completely unprepared for two strips, as I was too carried away by “running in a circle”, trying to get pregnant. Previously, I only knew about pregnancy that it lasts 9 months. I learned all the stages and subtleties already in the process.

To summarize briefly:

1) prepare for the strongest psychological attack negative thoughts, while your own consciousness will go on the attack, and it is most difficult to fight against it!
2) include in the budget for IVF funds for the restoration of the body in case of failure, for example, for a vacation (preferably if it is some kind of non-standard vacation, that is, if you usually prefer a beach vacation, take a sightseeing tour).
3) it will be difficult without the support of a spouse, make sure in advance that he is your rock, fortress, downy feather bed, warm waves and gentle sun.
4) think in advance that you are facing the worst 14 days of your life and work out a plan - what to do with your thoughts during this difficult time of waiting.
5) make plans for the future, carefully think over and calculate what and how you will do to achieve the goal (several IVF attempts, use of donor material, adopted child), be sure to discuss these plans with your spouse. Why is it important to discuss every nuance with your spouse? For example, you may be ready for a foster child, but he is not. This is not his fault, it is difficult to make such a decision in 1 minute. Discuss everything.

IVF is the same disaster for the family, as the first joint renovation, vacation, buying an apartment, organizing a wedding. But, if you are a support for each other and go towards the same goal, then this will only strengthen your relationship, regardless of the result. And in the ideal case, it will also increase your family.

Today I look at my child, which I got a long and difficult way, and cry with happiness, no matter how trite it may sound. This lovely little man is definitely worth all the nightmares I had to go through to meet him. I have already begun to forget how for more than 10 years I sobbed every month when critical days came. Sooner or later, everything bad will be forgotten, and this happiness will remain in our family forever.

interesting and instructive for many questions asked by site visitors and personally. A lot of interesting life situations It turns out to be related to the theme of the occult.

Negative infusion in IVF and ICSI

Question: Please explain what happens to the soul or energy of the embryo, fetus and child conceived by IVF or IVF + ICSI, are there any differences from naturally conceived? Is it true that there is a possibility of getting a boost or the soul of a "non-human"? It is important to know your opinion, because I read "horrors" from representatives of religion.

you raised a lot complex issue. Let's start with the fact that no one has conducted not only fundamental, but no research at all on the occurrence of negative replanting in infants, not to mention the likelihood of its occurrence in the case of in vitro fertilization.

In this issue, there is an obvious conflict between the points of view of official medicine, the heads of religious denominations and those who practice healing. I know that many healers are interested in this question. However, it should be recognized that not a single clinic that performs such operations will cooperate in providing at least minimal information about patients and statistics on the effectiveness of IVF. For such clinics, on the contrary, it would be logical and useful to involve healers at least for diagnostics. Is it being done? No. For the vast majority of physicians, such a phenomenon as negative replanting simply does not exist. And how to discuss the problem with a specialist who believes that there is no problem in principle?

I believe that it would be wrong to say that pregnancy after IVF (ICSI) gives a significantly higher likelihood of negative implantation in an infant compared to a child conceived in a natural way. As well as a baby born by a woman from a man (I emphasize, not from an incubus), even with IVF, it is unlikely that he will receive the soul of a "non-human". The egg will be in the mother's body almost from the moment of fertilization, perceive maternal energy, feel the world through its energy centers.

According to some reports, the primary spirit-like unit - the monad - which is precisely the prototype of the child's future soul, is present in the energy shells of the mother long before biological conception. Those. it turns out that the fertilization of the egg by the sperm is not zero Starting point, with which pregnancy begins and, accordingly, the development of a new person. People who perform IVF operations have no reason to consider themselves creators of people - they only help the already existing spirit of generation to overcome the couple's health problems. It is the presence or absence of the monad that can explain the success or failure of such operations. Doctors do everything right, but they work with the problem not at the initial (as they think) stage, but at an intermediate stage. If there is no primary spirit - a monad - in the energy shells of a woman, then the IVF operation will not be successful - there will be no one to spiritualize and develop the fertilized egg. Practice gives grounds to recommend a healing diagnosis and, possibly, intervention before IVF surgery. Collaboration between healers and IVF specialists would be highly beneficial, but this is currently unlikely.

A child born as a result of IVF (ICSI) from his parents will certainly receive a soul, and a human one.

The main occult danger in IVF is the influence on the embryo of the vibrations of those surrounding people who, in fact, at the moment of conception, look into the eyepiece of the microscope. And also those who are related to the operation itself. If the doctor has severe spoilage, especially replanting (not as rare as it seems), then this certainly poses a certain danger to the embryo. But it should be understood that the same danger comes from any person with an infusion for a woman who has become pregnant in a natural way. That is why at all times they tried to protect a pregnant woman from everything that could pose an occult danger to her and her unborn child. It is not possible to say what is more dangerous and which option for introducing replanting to an infant is more common. At least for the time being.

It is necessary, if possible, to reduce the likelihood of implanting a negative essence in an infant during IVF, at least through consultations with healers before and after the operation. But it is not known whether it is worth dedicating physicians to this - many doctors treat any phenomena that go beyond their usual practice with a sharp negative attitude. It may well start an open conflict with the doctor, accusing the patient and the healer of obscurantism, and this will not benefit the cause - successful pregnancy and successful childbirth. Very strange, but an aggressive-negative attitude is observed in relation to physicians to healers, and not vice versa.

I had to work with doctors (cardiologists, surgeons, pathologists) who had the hardest negative infusion of essence. Needless to say, all these patients carefully concealed from their medical colleagues both the problem itself and the fact of seeking help from a healer. Significant, isn't it?

Now about the attitude towards IVF of representatives of religious denominations. Obviously, the birth of a person in such cases does not occur through the natural (natural) intercourse of a man and a woman. But, you see, it would be cruel and unfair to deprive a childless family of the opportunity to have a child just on the grounds that some of the confessional leaders see this as a sin and danger.

The main stumbling block in recognizing the IVF procedure as acceptable from the point of view of the church is the need to select several "promising" ones from several fertilized eggs. Here are two points that are the reason for non-recognition Orthodox Church(in particular) IVF procedures: artificial (unnatural) preference given to one fertilized egg over others, and the need to destroy unsuitable eggs for the operation. It turns out that if a woman who has become pregnant in the usual way is mocked (for example) by her alcoholic husband, she has a miscarriage, then because of this no one will break copies in the media. But if a doctor selects several eggs from a woman who has been crying at night for ten years because she has no children, then it begins ...

Quote from an interview with Metropolitan Kirill of Smolensk and Kaliningrad, chairman of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, to the newspaper Vestnik MAPO, published (please note) by the Medical Academy of Postgraduate Education:
"... all types of in vitro fertilization, involving the preparation, preservation and deliberate destruction of "surplus" embryos, are incompatible with the Christian concept of human dignity.Children conceived and born in this way are no different from those whose brothers and sisters have been aborted. The only difference is that in this case, parents and doctors artificially link the birth of one with the inevitable death of several others. Of course, these children can and should be baptized, and any priest will treat them with the same love as any other baby. However, parents should understand that abortions and planned deaths do not go unnoticed for the family as a whole. From this point of view, it would be useful to inform the priest about the circumstances of the birth of the baby and try, as the Basics say social concept, overcome ill effects sin through repentance, prayer and participation in the saving sacraments of the Church, having previously fulfilled the penance imposed in such cases - a special period of prayerful repentance for the committed sin..."

At the same time, mind you, hundreds of thousands of children grow up in orphanages in grief and deprivation. And some priests, instead of saving entire generations of abandoned half-starved children, having, by the way, all the opportunities and means for this, are engaged in outright demagoguery regarding abortion and IVF. Doesn't a child sleeping under the station platform deserve no less attention? Is a baby living in a baby house in

Test-tube babies are not uncommon today. In connection with the increase in the number of in vitro fertilizations with such children, you will not surprise anyone. IVF is sometimes the only way overcome family infertility and become parents. However, even very loving and reverent mothers and fathers, as well as future parents who have yet to undergo IVF, face many myths and prejudices. Are IVF babies different from normal babies conceived naturally, you will find out by reading this article.

About conception

To understand what they are, IVF babies, you need to start from the very conception. During natural conception, the mother's egg meets the father's sperm in a wide part of the fallopian tube, and from there the fetal egg enters the uterine cavity within 7-9 days after fertilization. In IVF, conception is carried out outside the mother's body. The egg taken from the woman is fertilized in the laboratory with the sperm of the father. Then the embryo (and more often - several embryos) is planted in the uterine cavity, providing expectant mother accompanying hormonal therapy, so that the conditions for the development of babies are close to real, natural ones.

If the embryo takes root, the further course of pregnancy after IVF is not much different from the natural one, except that the woman is subject to more thorough medical supervision. The risks of miscarriage, hormonal disorders, multiple pregnancy, premature birth and placental pathologies are quite high.

The growth of a baby conceived in a test tube, and the pace of its development, completely coincide with those of a crumb, which mom and dad conceived without the participation of doctors.

Many believe that IVF is contrary to the laws of nature. If she did not provide for the possibility for a man or woman to reproduce their own kind, then (according to the opponents of IVF), doctors have no right to interfere. There is practically nothing to oppose this opinion, except perhaps the happy eyes of the spouses who become parents despite the diagnoses.

At birth, IVF children are no different from their peers, conceived naturally: neither in weight, nor in height, nor in the size of body parts. These are the same kids who want parental love and affection, who rejoice in their mother's smile and father's hands. If conception occurs in the same way, but under different conditions, then where did the myths about "eco" babies come from?

The fact is that at all times it was common for mankind to mystify everything new and obscure. IVF has existed for only 40 years, which in terms of history is comparable to only a second. There is nothing surprising in the fact that children conceived in a test tube are considered a miracle, an anomaly, and even evil. It's just that too little time has passed to understand what people are, conceived as opposed to nature.

The first IVF was done in 1978. A girl was born - an Englishwoman Lisa Brown. Now she is 40 years old, she received a good education, made a career, gave birth (conceived naturally) children. She is no different from her peers, does not suffer from rare diseases, does not show any anomalous abilities.

In the USSR, the first IVF was done in Moscow in 1986. The girl Elena Dontsova is also not much different from the others. In total, in the world at the beginning of 2018, there are more than five million people conceived in vitro.

Since the early 2000s, the state began to financially support the in vitro fertilization program. IVF was included in the list of insurance medicine services, and now the procedure is available for everyone according to indications. That is why more and more children are born who owe their birth to the work of fertility doctors.

So, IVF is quite normal for modern society. Now let's move on to those myths that relate to test-tube babies.

Religion and esotericism

Many religions are ambivalent about the IVF procedure. in Orthodoxy, for example, it is generally accepted that the baby's soul appears almost immediately, at the time of the fusion of the egg and sperm. In vitro fertilization, in which the doctor selects only the most fertilized egg from several fertilized eggs quality material, Orthodoxy is regarded as a murder. The doctor, with the consent of the parents, according to the ROC, kills the emerging life.

Not so long ago, parents who had the imprudence to inform the priest that the child was conceived through IVF could have difficulty in baptizing the baby. Fathers could refuse this. Now the attitude of the church has somewhat softened, and sometimes the priests themselves bless the couple for reproductive technologies. The church continues to oppose surrogacy, the use of donor eggs and sperm, and the artificial selection of the strongest embryos from a few living ones.

Islam has nothing against IVF, but requires his followers not to use the services of a surrogate mother, not to use donor biomaterial. In the IVF protocol, only the cells of the husband and wife should be used. Muslims believe that the soul comes and inhabits the child only 4 months after fertilization, and therefore Islam does not condemn the artificial selection and rejection of embryos.

The Jews believe that for reproduction any methods are good and justified. The attitude towards IVF is calm, balanced, and surrogate motherhood is accepted and approved in certain cases. Buddhists always welcome all innovations, including in the reproductive sphere. You can give life (in the understanding of the adherents of Buddhism) in any way, the main thing is that the parents love the baby, and he himself appeared in this world welcome and happy.

People who claim that children conceived in the IVF process do not have a soul, that they have a different aura, a different energy, are deeply mistaken. Some obsessed were ready to declare “witch hunts” at all times, and their “victims” usually become those who are at least somewhat different from themselves. The only difference between "eco" babies is in the way they are conceived, and the aura and energy are unconvincing arguments of those who cannot think of anything else.

The babies that appeared after IVF are by no means biorobots, not androids, humanoid beings not devoid of emotions and experiences. They are exactly the same children as everyone else, and therefore it is not worth mystifying their birth.

If there are religious or spiritual doubts, it is better to contact a clergyman, he will definitely help dispel them.

Infertility

It has long been believed that children born through reproductive technologies are more likely to have problems conceiving as adults. You don't have to worry about infertility. The first "eco" children, who are now 30-40 years old, showed by their example that they can have offspring. Conception occurs quite naturally.

The fact is that most couples have acquired infertility, which is an indication for in vitro fertilization. In other words, a man or woman has lost fertility under the influence of some diseases, negative influences, infections or injuries. They were born with normal reproductive potential.

The sperm and egg carry genetic information that reflects the basic characteristics. It is possible to believe that an IVF child will be infertile only if the spouses have a congenital genetic anomaly as the cause of infertility. Such anomalies are rare. In addition, the geneticist will definitely warn about them before IVF, and the procedure can be carried out using donor biomaterial.

So, children born after IVF can have offspring. Even if the infertility of one of the spouses is genetic, it is not at all necessary that the baby will inherit it. The same can be said about children conceived naturally: sons and daughters do not inherit all genetic anomalies, healthy parents do not always give birth to a healthy child.

Get sick more often and live less?

For some reason, it is believed that the long-term consequences of IVF for the child and his parents lie in the characteristics of the baby's health. Opponents of reproductive health care unanimously repeat the following: what is conceived against the will of God and nature cannot be healthy. IVF supporters claim that the preliminary selection of embryos for replanting is the factor that practically guarantees the birth healthy child, because abnormal embryos are simply “screened out” at the initial stage.

You can argue ad infinitum. Most likely, the debate between the two sides will continue for more than a dozen years. It is worth referring to medical statistics. AT childhood"ekoshnik" get sick on a par with their peers, conceived naturally. They have all the typical "childhood" diseases. These are usually viral infections, ENT diseases, allergic diseases.

Congenital anomalies in IVF children are 45% less common than in naturally conceived children. This is the merit of pre-implantation selection.

It is not possible to create more detailed statistics. Studies were conducted only in certain groups. It is impossible to conduct a large-scale study of the health status of all five million people conceived in a test tube.

As for developmental features, children born with the help of reproductive doctors are not much different from their peers. Psychologists practically do not disagree on this issue: there are no problems with emotional and mental development. If there are deviations, then they occur with the same frequency in ordinary children. Babies after IVF are more likely to be more developed, because they are always long-awaited and desired children, they are given more attention, they are not born by chance. This means that they are guaranteed attention and development in the family.

It is difficult to estimate the life expectancy of "eco" babies. Too little time has passed, and the first such children are only 40 years old. They are alive, healthy, and what will happen next - time will tell. The features of aging of such people, acquired "senile" diseases, the most common causes of death, are still unknown.

From a donor cell - someone else's?

This statement is true, but only half. For one of the spouses, this child will be related by blood and genes. It should be noted that the spouses are warned in advance about the consequences of fertilization using donor material. Only they themselves can decide whether they are ready to raise a baby, only 50% of their own blood. It should be noted that this fact does not stop many.

The very medical recommendation to use donor material is quite rare. Most often, they try to use oocytes and sperm of the spouses. Donation is offered to a woman only in the most extreme case: if she does not have ovaries, if she does not have her own eggs.

In a man, even with severe forms of infertility, spermatozoa usually do not remain without a genetic set. They may lose their mobility, be unviable, but the sperm head carries the most important thing - the genetic material. If necessary, it is removed and injected into the egg. Donor sperm is needed only in 1% of cases.

Pregnancy and childbirth

During pregnancy with IVF, the risks of miscarriage are indeed somewhat higher than in women who conceived on their own, but modern medicine can quite cope with the task of preserving and prolonging the period of bearing crumbs.

In order to increase the chance of pregnancy, during IVF, several embryos are introduced into the uterine cavity. That is why in 45% of cases after successful IVF, parents receive not one baby, but two or three toddlers at once. We can say that the probability of multiple pregnancy is the only consequence associated with IVF itself.

"Ekoshny" babies are often born prematurely. With multiple pregnancies, this is the absolute norm. During pregnancy with one fetus, delivery usually occurs between 37 and 39 weeks.

Very often, childbirth takes place by caesarean section, so as not to risk the health of such a long-awaited baby.

Celebrity kids

If all of the above did not convince you and you want some more arguments and evidence, then you can try to find “10 differences” between the ordinary children of your acquaintances and the children of celebrities conceived in a laboratory. Here is just a small list of mothers who have done IVF and are raising such children:

• Julia Roberts - actress;
• Kristina Orbakaite - singer and actress (IVF was with Mikhail Zemtsov);
• Alla Pugacheva - singer (IVF married to Maxim Galkin);
• Zhanna Friske - singer (IVF with Dmitry Shepelev);
• Yulia Dzherbinova - actress (IVF married to Evgeny Dyatlov);
• Elena Borshcheva - actress, presenter, KVN-shchitsa.

Greetings, my dear reader. How does the soul of a child come? Quite an interesting question.Now many conscious people are increasingly asking themselves the question - how, by what principles does the Soul of a child come into our world and decide in which family, which parents it will incarnate? This is what we'll talk about now.

Previously, in the era of rigid three-dimensional existence, the door of which had just closed behind us, even before their incarnation, the Souls concluded contracts with each other, figuratively speaking.

These contracts implied the passage of certain lessons of varying complexity during earthly life. so that often, through discomfort or even serious injuries and pain, to get to the state of And it is precisely those Souls who agreed to a contract of the required complexity, and were embodied for each other by parents, children, and indeed by all close people who have a tangible influence on fate. However, the time grindstones”, when each person was a tool for “cutting” the other so that both could gain experience and go out into the world through discomfort and love - passed.

The soul of the unborn child comes to the parents

Now, wise Souls, in order to gain experience, strive to incarnate only with those parents, in whose everyday life harmony, joy and love reign. And the experience of these Souls from now on will consist in accepting, transforming, strengthening and even more spreading these beautiful ones, creating and making the world around more beautiful.

It is for this reason that, along with the massive “awakening” of people and the widespread growth, many observe a trend of increasing cases in married couples. Of course, we understand that the level of our modern medicine does not yet allow her to really and objectively understand “where the legs grow from” this problem, and that is why it is important to know that these cases often have absolutely nothing to do with real, final and irreversible infertility.

Everything is regulated and transformed at the level of the Soul, and even now in medical practice there are quite a few absolutely fantastic cases when, according to all forecasts, analyzes, pregnancy is impossible, but it appears suddenly and passes. the best way, happily resolving and leaving doctors at a loss as to how such a thing is even possible.

It is also important that, due to the change of eras, there is no longer a need for such a huge number of people to be born. Therefore, the risk of overpopulation of the Earth and the universal catastrophe in connection with this is another low-frequency information trap.

The soul of a child comes to eco?

Separately, I would like to answer the question about in vitro fertilization (IVF). There are many rumors about him. Some even believe that this way of having a child is almost diabolical, godless. But let's just think and feel. Is it really possible for the Creator with his power, full penetration into everything around and with his concentration of the power of Love, for some reason, the incarnation of the Souls of children through IVF can become a secret or some kind of forbidden obstacle?

Is it really possible to assume that it is realistic to do this somehow “bypassing” the Creator and without his knowledge?? "Test-tube babies" are just as permeated with the love and light of the Creator, as well as children conceived in a natural way, and there is no place for rumors along with doubts. It's just that the Soul of this child, for some reason, chose this way of coming into this world, and for some reason the parents had to go through this way of conceiving a child in this way.

The situation is similar with caesarean section. Those women who cannot get rid of guilt or bitterness due to the fact that they could not give birth themselves, but gave birth as a result of an operation, should also know that this is a conscious choice of the Soul of the child to come and be born that way. Undoubtedly, delivery by caesarean brings with it certain difficulties, but they are compensated by significant pluses.

"Caesarites" are more open to this world and they do not have a painful traumatic birth experience, which is why there is also an increase now caesarean sections in maternity hospitals. This way is not natural, and this tendency will begin to decline in proportion to the increase in awareness among women and the desire to receive (return) knowledge about the beneficent soft natural that is not traumatic.

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